So what is happening for this PEP since Python 3.8 beta1 has been released? Is it too late for Python 3.8 or not? It seems like most people are confused by the intent of the PEP. IMHO it would be better to rewrite "Remove packages from the stdlib" as "Move some stdlib modules to PyPI". But that would require to rewrite some parts of the PEP to explain how modules are moved, who become the new maintainers, how to support modules both in stdlib (old Python versions) and in PyPI (new Python), etc. Victor
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