On 5/3/2018 6:22 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2018-05-03 11:30, Victor Stinner wrote: >> Please don't queue backward incompatible changes for Python 4.0. You >> should use the regular deprecation process. > > I don't really see how that can be done here. As Stefan said > >> The problem is that this >> change does not really fit into the deprecation cycle since there is no >> specific use case to warn about. > > The PEP proposes to change an implementation detail. It's really hard to > determine at runtime whether code is relying on that implementation > detail. We could insert a DeprecationWarning in some places, but those > would mostly be false positives (a DeprecationWarning is shown but the > code won't break). > > On top of that, there is no way to show a DeprecationWarning for code > like "type(x) is foo". Deprecating doesn't necessarily involve a DeprecationWarning, although if possible it should, of course. It could just be a documented deprecation. We've done this before, although I can't think of an example off the top of my head (which I realize is not exactly helpful). "If you're doing a type check involving C functions, and you're doing it <old way>, change it to <new way> because we're going to deprecate the old way in version x.y". Of course this assumes both <old way> and <new way> can coexist for several versions, which itself might not be possible. Eric
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