On 2017-11-28 21:31, Raymond Hettinger wrote: > >> I also cc python-dev to see if anybody here is strongly in favor or against this inclusion. > > Put me down for a strong -1. The proposal would occasionally save a few keystokes but comes at the expense of giving Python a more Perlish look and a more arcane feel. > > One of the things I like about Python is that I can walk non-programmers through the code and explain what it does. The examples in PEP 505 look like a step in the wrong direction. They don't "look like Python" and make me feel like I have to decrypt the code to figure-out what it does. > > timeout ?? local_timeout ?? global_timeout > 'foo' in (None ?? ['foo', 'bar']) > requested_quantity ?? default_quantity * price > name?.strip()[4:].upper() > user?.first_name.upper() Your examples have convinced me, -1 from me.
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