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Thu Mar 30 03:49:33 EDT 2017 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2017-March/147730.html

On 03/30/2017 06:31 AM, Nick Coghlan wrote:
> On 29 March 2017 at 02:18, Paul Moore <p.f.moore at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 28 March 2017 at 12:24, Miro Hrončok <mhroncok at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> I'd like some clarification on what ABI compatibility we can expect.
>>>  * Should the ABI be stable across patch releases (so calling
>>> PySlice_AdjustIndices from an existing macro would be a bug)?
>>>  * Should the ABI be forward-compatible within a minor release (so modules
>>> built for 3.6.0 should be usable with 3.6.1, but not vice versa)?
>>>  * Or should we expect the ABI to change even across patch releases?
>>
>> Given that binary wheels are built against a specific minor version
>> (3.6, 3.5, ...) I would expect the ABI to be consistent over a minor
>> release. That would fit with my expectations of the compatibility
>> guarantees on patch releases.
>>
>> So I from what you describe, I'd consider this as a bug. Certainly, if
>> someone built a C extension as a wheel using Python 3.6.1, it would be
>> tagged as compatible with cp36, and pip would happily use it when
>> installing to a Python 3.6.0 system, where it would fail.
>
> Right, this is the main problem - while "build against the X.Y.0
> headers" is useful advice, it's not something we've ever explicitly
> stated, and it's not something we can reasonably expect all providers
> of pre-built binary modules to do.

Also, while building against 3.6.0 headers will ensure compatibility, it 
will also restore the original bug that PySlice_AdjustIndices fixes.
Expecting extension authors to build against x.y.0 would lock them out 
of such bug fixes in later releases.

> Instead, it makes sense to explicitly strengthen the ABI guarantees
> within CPython maintenance releases, and add some automated testing to
> avoid accidental changes and oversights (similar to the pending test
> to ensure magic number stability for cached bytecode files)
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>

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