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Tue Dec 19 06:17:16 EST 2017 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2017-December/151385.html

Sorry, completely fat-fingered my autocomplete and sent to to wrong list.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Erik Bray <erik.m.bray at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a ticket [1] that's hung up on a failure in one doctest in the
> form of sage.doctest.sources.FileDocTestSource._test_enough_doctests.
>
> This test has been there since, it seems, as long as the current
> doctest framework has been in place and nobody seems to have
> questioned it.  Its expected output is generated from the Sage sources
> themselves, and can change when tests are added or removed to any
> module (if any of those tests should be "skipped").  Over the years
> the expected output to this test has just been updated as necessary.
>
> But in taking a closer look at the test--and I could be mistaken--but
> it's not even a useful test.  It's *attempting* to validate that the
> doctest parser skips tests when it's supposed to.  But it performs
> this validation by...implementing its own, less robust doctest parser,
> and comparing the results of that to the results of the real doctest
> parser.  Sometimes--in fact often--the comparison is wrong (as the
> test itself acknowledges).
>
> This doesn't seem to me a correct or useful way to validate the
> doctest parser.  If there are cases that the real doctest parser
> should be tested against, then unit tests/regression tests should be
> written that simply test the real doctest parser against those cases
> and check the results.  Having essentially a real doctest parser, and
> a "fake" one that's incorrect doesn't make sense to me, unless there's
> something about this I'm misunderstanding.
>
> I would propose to just remove the test.  If there are any actual
> regressions it's responsible for catching then more focused regression
> tests should be written for those cases.
>
> Erik
>
>
> [1] https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/24261#comment:24

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[Python-Dev] Question on a seemingly useless doctest