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Mon Aug 29 21:10:21 EDT 2016 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2016-August/145946.html

A nice recent blog post about paths encoding in a media player.
http://beets.io/blog/paths.html . It's not merely the porting that makes it
hard.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 19:32 Victor Stinner <victor.stinner at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2016-08-24 17:44 GMT+02:00 Steve Dower <steve.dower at python.org>:
> > I know Nick and Victor like the idea of a -X flag (or a direct -utf8
> flag),
> > but I prefer more specific environment variables:
> >
> > - PYTHONWINDOWSLEGACYSTDIO (for the console changes)
> > - PYTHONWINDOWSLEGACYPATHENCODING (assuming getfilesystemencoding() is
> utf8)
> > - PYTHONWINDOWSLEGACYLOCALEENCODING (assuming getpreferredencoding() is
> > utf8)
>
> Hum, you propose the opposite behaviour of my proposed "-X utf8"
> switch :-) You propose to force UTF-8 by default, but add a new flag
> to revert to the old behaviour. Right?
>
> About (...)LEGACYSTDIO: I don't think that we need such option. Using
> Unicode is the obvious choice if stdout/stderr is the Windows console
> no? I'm not talking about the case where stdout/stderr is redirected
> (into a file or a pipe). Are you aware of any case where the "legacy
> stdio" is better than the "new" (win_unicode_console-like) stdio?
>
> (...)PATHENCODING and (...)LOCALEENCODING: please don't do that. I
> tried once in Python 3.2 on Linux, and it failed badly:
> https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2010-October/104517.html
>
> I don't think that it's a good idea to add an option to use two
> different encodings inside the same process. It's too common to
> exchange data between the "path encoding world" and "locale encoding
> world".
>
> Hum, currently, is it possible to get two different encodings for
> "path encoding" and "locale encoding"? Or both encodings are the ANSI
> code page? I only recall that the console uses a different encoding,
> the OEM code page.
>
> Victor
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