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[Python-Dev] File system path encoding on Windows

[Python-Dev] File system path encoding on Windowstritium-list at sdamon.com tritium-list at sdamon.com
Sun Aug 28 16:39:33 EDT 2016
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Python-Dev [mailto:python-dev-bounces+tritium-
> list=sdamon.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Steve Dower
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:44 AM
> To: Stephen J. Turnbull <turnbull.stephen.fw at u.tsukuba.ac.jp>
> Cc: Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com>; Python Dev <python-
> dev at python.org>
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] File system path encoding on Windows
> 
> On 23Aug2016 2150, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> > Steve Dower writes:
> >
> >  > * Stephen sees "no reason not to change
locale.getpreferredencoding()"
> >  > (default encoding for open()) at the same time with the same
switches,
> >  > while I'm not quite as confident. Do users generally specify an
encoding
> >  > these days? I know I always put utf-8 there.
> >
> > I was insufficiently specific.  "No reason not to" depends on separate
> > switches for file system encoding and preferred encoding.  That makes
> > things somewhat more complicated for implementation, and significantly
> > so for users.
> 
> Yes, it does, but it's about the only possible migration path.
> 
> I know Nick and Victor like the idea of a -X flag (or a direct -utf8
> flag), but I prefer more specific environment variables:
> 
> - PYTHONWINDOWSLEGACYSTDIO (for the console changes)
> - PYTHONWINDOWSLEGACYPATHENCODING (assuming
> getfilesystemencoding() is utf8)
> - PYTHONWINDOWSLEGACYLOCALEENCODING (assuming
> getpreferredencoding() is
> utf8)

Once you get to var lengths like that, arcane single character flags start
looking preferable.  How about "PYTHONWINLEGACY" to just turn it all on or
off.  If the code breaks on one thing, it obviously isn't written to use the
other two, so might as well shut them all off.


> I'm open to dropping "WINDOWS" from these if others don't think it's
> necessary. Swap "LEGACY" for "UNICODE" if we just offer the option to
> upgrade now rather than changing the default.
> 
> (I could also see the possibility of PYTHONWINDOWSSTRICT* options to use
> the default encoding but raise if decoding bytes fails - mbcs:strict
> rather than mbcs:replace. For utf-8 mode I'd want to use surrogatepass
> throughout, so it will always raise on invalid encoding, but there will
> be far fewer occurrences than for mbcs.)
> 
> I'll transform my earlier post into a PEP (or probably three PEPs - one
> for each change), since it seems like the paper trail is going to be
> more valuable than discussing it now. Without an actual build to test
> it's pretty hard to evaluate the impact.
> 
> Cheers,
> Steve
> 
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