On 21Mar2015 14:29, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote: >> On Mar 21, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote: >> On 19 March 2015 at 07:51, Donald Stufft <donald at stufft.io> wrote: >>> I’ve long wished that the OS had it’s own virtual environment. A lot of problems >>> seems to come from trying to cram the things the OS wants with the things that >>> the user wants into the same namespace. >> >> I'm more wanting to go in the other direction and suggest to folks >> that if they're not *scripting the OS*, then the system Python isn't >> what they want, and they should be using at least a virtual >> environment, preferably an entirely separate software collection that >> they can upgrade on their own timeline, independently of what they >> system does. > >It’s likely easier to get the OS to move it’s own things to a virtual >environment than it is to convince every single person who uses an OS >to never install globally. I agree. And just as a data point, this cropped up on the Fedora list yesterday: I broke Yum (by messing with Python libs) http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-users/msg458069.html TL;DR: OP used pip on his system python. Yum broke. Probably hampered his attempts to repair, too. Cheers, Cameron Simpson <cs at zip.com.au> The mind reigns, but does not govern. - Paul Valery
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