On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 09:08:29 +1000 Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan at gmail.com> wrote: > On 23 March 2014 08:53, Ben Darnell <ben at bendarnell.com> wrote: > > I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment behind this PEP, but I have > > concerns about the implementation. If we introduce new APIs into the ssl > > module then we will see packages and applications that depend on Python > > 2.7.7+, just like with the introduction of bool in 2.2.1. This will be a > > mess unless adoption of new Python minor versions is swift and consistent. > > The PEP says that new features should be testable with feature detection, > > but how far does that go? The Python 3 NPN interface is a method of > > SSLContext, which didn't exist in 2.7. Do we backport the entire SSLContext > > interface in a minor release, or introduce a new NPN interface that is not > > based on SSLContext just for older Pythons? > > The whole thing. Have you first tried to do it and appreciate the amount of disruption it would cause? > It's not just ssl2: you needs os2, random2, ftplib2, poplib2, > imaplib2, smtplib2. You also run headlong into the problem of a > complex external dependency on OpenSSL (which the Linux distro > repackagers currently handle for us). So are you proposing to backport changes to all these modules too? This sounds crazy. Regards Antoine.
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