Let's agree to disagree then. I see your methodology used all around me with often problematic results. Maybe devs should have two machines -- one monster that is *only* usable to develop fast, one small that where they run their own apps (email, web browser etc.). On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Tim Delaney <timothy.c.delaney at gmail.com>wrote: > On 9 October 2013 03:35, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM, R. David Murray <rdmurray at bitdance.com>wrote: >> >>> PS: I have always thought it sad that the ready availability of memory, >>> CPU speed, and disk space tends to result in lazy programs. I understand >>> there is an effort/value tradeoff, and I make those tradeoffs myself >>> all the time...but it still makes me sad. Then, again, in my early >>> programming days I spent a fair amount of time writing and using Forth, >>> and that probably colors my worldview. :) >>> >> >> I never used or cared for Forth, but I have the same worldview. I >> remember getting it from David Rosenthal, an early Sun reviewer. He stated >> that engineers should be given the smallest desktop computer available, not >> the largest, so they would feel their users' pain and optimize >> appropriately. Sadly software vendors who are also hardware vendors have >> incentives going in the opposite direction -- they want users to feel the >> pain so they'll buy a new device. >> > > I look at it a different way. Developers should be given powerful machines > to speed up the development cycle (especially important when prototyping > and in the code/run unit test cycle), but everything should be tested on > the smallest machine available. > > It's also a good idea for each developer to have a resource-constrained > machine for developer testing/profiling/etc. Virtual machines work quite > well for this - you can modify the resource constraints (CPU, memory, etc) > to simulate different scenarios. > > I find that this tends to better promote the methodology of "make it > right, then make it fast (small, etc)", which I subscribe to. Optimising > too early leads to all your code being complicated, rather than just the > bits that need it. > > Tim Delaney > -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20131008/e77a3063/attachment.html>
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