On 07/07/2013 01:42 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > On 7 Jul, 2013, at 13:35, Larry Hastings <larry at hastings.org> wrote: >> On 07/07/2013 07:25 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> Signature objects use a name in angled brackets to indicate that a parameter is positional only, for example "input(<prompt>)". That might be an alternative to adding a "/" in the argument list in pydoc's output. >>> >> I wasn't aware that Signature objects currently had any support whatsoever for positional-only parameters. Yes, in theory they do, but in practice they have never seen one, because positional-only parameters only occur in builtins and Signature objects have no metadata for builtins. (The very problem Argument Clinic eventually hopes to solve!) >> >> Can you cite an example of this, so I may examine it? > I have a branch of PyObjC that uses this: <https://bitbucket.org/ronaldoussoren/pyobjc-3.0-unstable/overview>. That branch isn't quite stable yet, but does add a __signature__ slot to objc.selector and objc.function (basicly methods of Cocoa classes and automaticly wrapped global functions), both of which only have positional-only arguments. With the patch for pydoc/inspect I mentioned earlier I can then generate somewhat useful documentation for Cocoa classes using pydoc. > > A word of warning though: the PyObjC source code isn't the most approachable, the code that generates the Signature object is actually in python (callable_signature in pyobjc-core/Lib/objc/_callable_docstr.py) Ah. In other words, you have proposed it yourself in an external project. I thought you were saying this was something Python itself already did. In that case, I think I will stick with Guido's suggested syntax. Consider window.border in the curses module: eight positional-only parameters, each in its own optional parameter group. Adding sixteen angle-brackets to that already unreadable morass will make it even worse. But with "/" we add only a single extra character, in an easy-to-find place (the end). //arry/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20130707/3def6f7c/attachment-0001.html>
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