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Sat Dec 29 23:17:03 CET 2012 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2012-December/123365.html

On 12/29/2012 10:44 PM, Eli Bendersky wrote:
> 
>     >         Executing the event means executing ``action(*argument, **kwargs)``.
>     >     -   *argument* must be a sequence holding the parameters for *action*.
>     >     -   *kwargs* must be a dictionary holding the keyword parameters for
>     *action*.
>     >     +   Optional *argument* argument must be a sequence holding the parameters
>     >     +   for *action* if any used.
>     >     +   Optional *kwargs* argument must be a dictionary holding the keyword
>     >     +   parameters for *action* if any used.
>     >
>     >
>     > I don't see how this change improves the documentation. To keep the grammar
>     > correct and just state that the arguments are optional, I would simply replace
>     > "must be" by "is". For example:
>     >
>     >   *argument* is a sequence holding the parameters for *action*.
>     >
>     > This is short, and since the function signature clearly shows that
>     argument has
>     > a default value, I think it conveys the meaning it should.
> 
>     Hi Eli,
> 
>     I'm sure we non-native speakers are fine with any improvements you can make
>     during commit review.
> 
>     Georg
> 
> 
> Georg,
> 
> I also wrote a private email to Serhiy proposing to help, but since you brought
> this up here: I think that my comment was constructive. What should have I done
> differently?

Nothing at all.  In case you read my comment as sarcasm, please don't.  It
probably was a little unreflected.

> Go ahead and modify the phrasing in a separate commit? I see a couple of problems with that:
> 
> 1. It can be somewhat disrespectful to a new committer, and I wanted to reach a
> consensus first.

I would not feel unrespected by someone correcting nits in my English grammar.
(Maybe it would be different for Python grammar :)

> 2. Serhiy diligently committed this into 3 or 4 different Python branches. With
> all due respect, going through the merge/push dance is far above the effort I'm
> willing to invest in this.

I understand.  I probably would have not done it instantly either, but put it
on my todo list and committed when I had some other change as well.

> Eli
> 
> P.S. I would argue that you are more native-speaker than myself w.r.t. English :-)

Then I was mistaken there.  (Are there multiple levels of nativeness? :)  Or is
it because English is half-Germanic?)

cheers,
Georg

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