At 11:11 AM 9/15/2010 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: >Given that wsgiref is in the stdlib, I think we should hold up the 3.2 >release (and even the first beta) until this is resolved, unless we >can convince ourselves that it's okay to delete wsgiref from the >stdlib (which sounds unlikely but may not be any more incompatible >than making it work properly :-). FWIW, I'd be fine with that option. >I want to emphasize that I am *not* a stakeholder so my preference for >bytes or Unicode shouldn't matter; that said, given WSGI's traditional >emphasis on using the lowest-level, vanilla standard datatypes (e.g. >you can't even subclass dict let alone provide another kind of mapping >-- it has to be a real dict) it makes sense to me that the values >should be bytes, os.environ notwithstanding. The keys probably could >be Unicode (HTTP headers are required to use only 7-bit ASCII >characters anyways right?). But I'd be happy to be shown the error of >my ways (or given a link showing prior discussion of the matter -- >preferably with a conclusion :-). There isn't a conclusion yet, but the proposals under discussion are summarized here: http://www.wsgi.org/wsgi/Python_3#Proposals The primary points of consensus are bytes for wsgi.input, and native strings (i.e. Unicode on Python 3) for environment keys. If I were to offer a suggestion to a PEP author or dictator wanting to get something out ASAP, it would probably be to create a compromise between the "flat" model (my personal favorite) and the mod_wsgi model, as an addendum to PEP 333. Specifically: * leave start_response/write in play (ala mod_wsgi) * use the required types from the "flat" proposal (i.e. status, headers, and output stream MUST be bytes) * add a decorator to wsgiref that supports using native strings as output instead of bytes, for ease-of-porting (combine mod_wsgi's ease-of-porting w/"flat"'s simple verifiability) This would probably allow us to get by with the least changes to existing code, the stdlib, the standard itself, and wsgiref. (wsgiref itself would still need a thorough code review, especially wsgiref.validate, but it'd be unlikely to change much.)
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