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[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit EuroPython 2010

[Python-Dev] Python Language Summit EuroPython 2010Barry Warsaw barry at python.org
Thu Jul 22 10:58:09 CEST 2010
On Jul 21, 2010, at 04:11 PM, Tim Golden wrote:

>The email module needs some work in Py3. David Murray has been given
>some money by the PSF but needs more from other sources to complete
>the work. This is hampered by the legalities around commercial
>organisations making donations to not-for-profits when those donations
>are earmarked. Various suggestions were put forward with no-one sure
>of the legal issues. Guido suggested that we should move forward
>rather than stall for want of legal advice.

+1 please!  Or contact the folks at the FSF for their experiences.  I know
that they accept tax exempt donations targeted for specific projects.  Of
course, when they disburse funds to developers, those developers may incur tax
liabilities, but that's a different matter.

>Martin spoke about the state of the stable ABI PEP, indicating that he
>was targetting 3.2. This work would reduce the need to recompile
>extension modules separately on Windows for every version of Python --
>something especially pertinent when code has been orphaned but is
>still useful. The versioned .so files PEP being worked out by Barry
>Warsaw overlaps with this PEP and would only be useful for extensions
>which don't target the stable ABI.

Right.  Expect an update to PEP 3149 later today, along with more followups to
that thread, and an updated patch.

I'd also like to see the stable ABI make it into Python 3.2.  It's a longer
term project in the sense that it will take time for extensions to be written
against the ABI.  Getting it into Python 3.2 will allow that process to start,
but I think even that doesn't eliminate the need for versioned .so files
because there will always be extensions accessing API outside PEP 384.

I'd still like to help work on the implementation of PEP 384.  It would be
helpful for folks who care about it to comment on the substance of the PEP.

-Barr
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