On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 09:09:45 +0100 Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> wrote: > Am 08.12.2010 01:09, schrieb Antoine Pitrou: > > On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 23:45:39 +0000 (UTC) > > Vinay Sajip <vinay_sajip at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Antoine Pitrou <solipsis <at> pitrou.net> writes: > >> > >> > > >> > I thought "error" and "critical" messages were logged to stderr by > >> > default? Isn't it the case? > >> > > >> > >> Only if you call basicConfig() or use the logging.debug(), logging.info(), etc. > >> module-level convenience functions (which call basicConfig under the hood). > > > > Why wouldn't it be the default for all logging calls ? Such special > > cases don't really make things easy to remember. > > > >> When is the NullHandler needed? Only for cases where an application developer > >> uses a library which does logging under the covers (for those users who might be > >> interested in logging its operations), but where that application developer > >> doesn't use logging themselves for that application. > > > > You seem pretty tied up to the "application developer" situation. There > > are cases (scripts, prototyping, etc.) where you certainly want to see > > error messages (errors should not pass silently) but don't want to > > configure logging for each of the libraries you use. > > But errors don't pass silently, do they? The usual way to present errors > is still by raising exceptions. Or logging them. http://docs.python.org/dev/library/logging.html#logging.Logger.exception
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