On 04/08/2010 02:08, Steve Holden wrote: > It's a little disappointing to discover that despite the relatively > large number of developers who have received MSDN licenses from > Microsoft, none if us have the time to make sure that the buildbots are > green for the 2.6.6 release. > > I wonder if anyone can think of a way we can get some Windows skillz > into the group that could assist at ties like this. Some brainstorming > might find a way through. My own problem is just the amount of ramp-up time (as a proportion of my own available time) to get hold of a problem even when I see it. (Speaking here in the more general sense of fixing Windows-related Python bugs). As one who has benefitted from the MSDN largesse I am certainly conscious of the responsibility to contribute benefits back to the Python community. On the basis that I'm far more likely to watch a buildbot which I actually administer, I have recently nudged my sysadmins here to see if they can make good on their promise to find me a spare server to use as a buildbot. I have watched the buildbot pages occasionally, especially when I see Windows-related commits going in, but several times "red" buildbots have turned out to be -- apparently -- environmental / local issues unrelated to commits. Obviously I could/should have contacted the buildbot owner to at least inform him or her that something was amiss. But somehow at that point one's technical enthusiasm for fixing a problem diminishes when it's not clear that there *is* a problem. (Grumble, grumble, mutter, mutter... :) ) While we'd certainly benefit from more Windows skills, we'd probably benefit more from people who have more *time* to look at Windows issues. OK; to propose something concrete: I'll write a blog post and advertise on python-win32 to ask for Windows people who perhaps might at least be interested in contributing time. I will also advertise (and maybe enhance) Brian Curtin's how-to doc on Windows Python core development... which I can't quite lay my hands on at the moment. Hopefully we can lower the perceived entry-bar for contribution at different levels. TJG
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