James Y Knight wrote: > > On Apr 28, 2009, at 2:50 AM, Martin v. Löwis wrote: > >> James Y Knight wrote: >>> Hopefully it can be assumed that your locale encoding really is a >>> non-overlapping superset of ASCII, as is required by POSIX... >> >> Can you please point to the part of the POSIX spec that says that >> such overlapping is forbidden? > > I can't find it...I would've thought it would be on this page: > http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908775/xbd/charset.html > but it's not (at least, not obviously). That does say (effectively) that > all encodings must be supersets of ASCII and use the same codepoints, > though. > > However, ISO-2022 being inappropriate for LC_CTYPE usage is the entire > reason why EUC-JP was created, so I'm pretty sure that it is in fact > inappropriate, and I cannot find any evidence of it ever being used on > any system. > > From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUC-JP: > "To get the EUC form of an ISO-2022 character, the most significant bit > of each 7-bit byte of the original ISO 2022 codes is set (by adding 128 > to each of these original 7-bit codes); this allows software to easily > distinguish whether a particular byte in a character string belongs to > the ISO-646 code or the ISO-2022 (EUC) code." > > Also: > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/iso2022-wc.html > > >>> I'm a bit scared at the prospect that U+DCAF could turn into "/", that >>> just screams security vulnerability to me. So I'd like to propose that >>> only 0x80-0xFF <-> U+DC80-U+DCFF should ever be allowed to be >>> encoded/decoded via the error handler. >> >> It would be actually U+DC2f that would turn into /. > > Yes, I meant to say DC2F, sorry for the confusion. > >> I'm happy to exclude that range from the mapping if POSIX really >> requires an encoding not to be overlapping with ASCII. > > I think it has to be excluded from mapping in order to not introduce > security issues. > > However... > > There's also SHIFT-JIS to worry about...which apparently some people > actually want to use as their default encoding, despite it being broken > to do so. RedHat apparently refuses to provide it as a locale charset > (due to its brokenness), and it's also not available by default on my > Debian system. People do unfortunately seem to actually use it in real > life. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=136290 > > So, I'd like to propose this: > The "python-escape" error handler when given a non-decodable byte from > 0x80 to 0xFF will produce values of U+DC80 to U+DCFF. When given a > non-decodable byte from 0x00 to 0x7F, it will be converted to > U+0000-U+007F. On the encoding side, values from U+DC80 to U+DCFF are > encoded into 0x80 to 0xFF, and all other characters are treated in > whatever way the encoding would normally treat them. > > This proposal obviously works for all non-overlapping ASCII supersets, > where 0x00 to 0x7F always decode to U+00 to U+7F. But it also works for > Shift-JIS and other similar ASCII-supersets with overlaps in trailing > bytes of a multibyte sequence. So, a sequence like > "\x81\xFD".decode("shift-jis", "python-escape") will turn into > u"\uDC81\u00fd". Which will then properly encode back into "\x81\xFD". > > The character sets this *doesn't* work for are: ebcdic code pages > (obviously completely unsuitable for a locale encoding on unix), > iso2022-* (covered above), and shift-jisx0213 (because it has replaced \ > with yen, and - with overline). > > If it's desirable to work with shift_jisx0213, a modification of the > proposal can be made: Change the second sentence to: "When given a > non-decodable byte from 0x00 to 0x7F, that byte must be the second or > later byte in a multibyte sequence. In such a case, the error handler > will produce the encoding of that byte if it was standing alone (thus in > most encodings, \x00-\x7f turn into U+00-U+7F)." > > It sounds from https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162501 like > some people do actually use shift_jisx0213, unfortunately. > I've been thinking of "python-escape" only in terms of UTF-8, the only encoding mentioned in the PEP. In UTF-8, bytes 0x00 to 0x7F are decodable. But if you're talking about using it with other encodings, eg shift-jisx0213, then I'd suggest the following: 1. Bytes 0x00 to 0xFF which can't normally be decoded are decoded to half surrogates U+DC00 to U+DCFF. 2. Bytes which would have decoded to half surrogates U+DC00 to U+DCFF are treated as though they are undecodable bytes. 3. Half surrogates U+DC00 to U+DCFF which can be produced by decoding are encoded to bytes 0x00 to 0xFF. 4. Codepoints, including half surrogates U+DC00 to U+DCFF, which can't be produced by decoding raise an exception. I think I've covered all the possibilities. :-)
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