Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Antoine Pitrou writes: > > > > or (better for 2.x, where bytes are strings as far as most > > > programmers are concerned) as a new data type, > > > > I'm -1 on any new string-like type (for file paths or whatever > > else) with custom encoding/decoding semantics. It's the best way to > > ruin the clean str/bytes separation that 3.x introduced. > > Excuse me, but I can't see a scheme that encodes bytes as Unicodes but > only sometimes as a "clean separation". It's a dirty hack that makes > life a lot easier for Windows programmers and a little easier for many > Unix programmers. Practicality beats purity, true, but at the cost of > the purity. > > The problem you don't address, which is still the reality for most programmers (especially Mac OS X where filesystem encoding is UTF 8), is that programmers *are* going to treat filenames as strings. The proposed PEP allows that to work for them - whatever platform their program runs on. Michael > > Besides, the goal is also to makes things easier for the > > programmer. Otherwise, we'll have the same situation as in 2.x > > where many English-centric programmers produced code that was > > incapable of dealing with non-ASCII input, because they didn't care > > about the distinction between str and unicode. > > So what you'll get here, AFAICS, is a new situation where many > Windows-centric programmers will produce code that's incapable of > dealing with non-Unicode input because they don't have to care about > the distinction between Unicode and bytes. > > That's an improvement, but we can do still better and not at huge > expense to programmers. > _______________________________________________ > Python-Dev mailing list > Python-Dev at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev > Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/fuzzyman%40voidspace.org.uk > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog
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