On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:00:43PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote: -> Collin Winter wrote: -> >On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Michael Foord -> ><fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk> wrote: -> > -> >>Collin Winter wrote: -> >> -> >>>As part of the common standard library and test suite that we agreed -> >>>on at the PyCon language summit last week, we're going to include a -> >>>common benchmark suite that all Python implementations can share. This -> >>>is still some months off, though, so there'll be plenty of time to -> >>>bikeshed^Wrationally discuss which benchmarks should go in there. -> >>> -> >>> -> >>Where is the right place for us to discuss this common benchmark and test -> >>suite? -> >> -> >>As the benchmark is developed I would like to ensure it can run on -> >>IronPython. -> >> -> >>The test suite changes will need some discussion as well - Jython and -> >>IronPython (and probably PyPy) have almost identical changes to tests that -> >>currently rely on deterministic finalisation (reference counting) so it -> >>makes sense to test changes on both platforms and commit a single -> >>solution. -> >> -> > -> >I believe Brett Cannon is the best person to talk to about this kind -> >of thing. I don't know that any common mailing list has been set up, -> >though there may be and Brett just hasn't told anyone yet :) -> > -> >Collin -> > -> Which begs the question of whether we *should* have a separate mailing list. -> -> I don't think we discussed this specific point in the language summit - -> although it makes sense. Should we have a list specifically for the test -> / benchmarking or would a more general implementations-sig be appropriate? -> -> And is it really Brett who sets up mailing lists? My understanding is -> that he is pulling out of stuff for a while anyway, so that he can do -> Java / Phd type things... ;-) 'tis a sad loss for both Python-dev and the academic community... I vote for a separate mailing list -- 'python-tests'? -- but I don't know exactly how splintered to make the conversation. It probably belongs at python.org but if you want me to host it, I can. N.B. There are a bunch of GSoC projects to work on or with the CPython test framework (increase test coverage, write plugins to make it runnable in nose or py.test, etc.). I don't know that the students should be active participants in such a list, but the mentors should at least try to stay in the loop so that we don't completely waste our time. cheers, --titus -- C. Titus Brown, ctb at msu.edu
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