On Jan 6, 2008 7:40 PM, Raymond Hettinger <python at rcn.com> wrote: > [Jeffrey Yasskin] > > The other 3 methods > > specified by PEP 3141 aren't strictly necessary for 2.6, but they will > > be needed for 3.0. I'd rather not make the two versions of Decimal > > gratuitously different, so this patch puts them in the 2.6 version > > too. > > If I understand you correctly, then the patch backports magic methods that do not have corresponding invocation methods in Py2.6. > So, they are basically useless. If that's true, then the patch is clutter -- it makes 2.6 less desirable. It is not obvious to me > how this will help someone transition to Py3.0. I'm curious to hear how Guido makes the call on this. > > Also, the goal of keeping versions identical across 2.6 and 3.0 is at odds with previous discussions where I believe we said that > that is *not* the goal and will likely not even be possible in many cases. Besides, if the invocation of the magic methods is > different in 3.0, how are you going to keep the test suite code the same across versions? Given Guido's agreement, expect another version of this patch with only __trunc__. > There should probably be a PEP sets clearer guidelines about what should be backported from Py3.0. Perhaps something like this: > * If there is a new feature that can be implemented in both and will make both more attractive, then it should be in both. > * If something is going away or changing in 3.0, then the 2.6 conversion tool mode should warn about it if possible. > * If neither of the above apply, then leave 2.6 alone. > > > I'm not > > sure exactly what you're objecting to. Could you be more precise? > > You note said: "I'll implement Context.round() in a separate patch. Comment away." Oh, sorry for not being clear then. I don't intend to write or discuss that separate patch until this one's approved and submitted. I think it's worth discussing eventually, but this change is more important. I mentioned this sentiment at http://bugs.python.org/msg59417 too, but clearly wasn't explicit enough in either case. -- Namasté, Jeffrey Yasskin
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