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[Python-Dev] Nonlocal shortcut

[Python-Dev] Nonlocal shortcutCalvin Spealman ironfroggy at gmail.com
Mon Dec 8 23:52:12 CET 2008
Did the original PEP discussion cover debates about the shortcut
working for all assignment operators (like += and x[i] =) and the
difference between it being one-shot (doesnt affect x for the rest of
the function) or simply the unrolling into nonlocal x; x= y as it is?

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Guido van Rossum <guido at python.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Amaury Forgeot d'Arc <amauryfa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Fabio Zadrozny  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm currently implementing a parser to handle Python 3.0, and one of
>>> the points I found conflicting with the grammar specification is the
>>> PEP 3104.
>>>
>>> It says that a shortcut would be added to Python 3.0 so that "nonlocal
>>> x = 0" can be written. However, the latest grammar specification
>>> (http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/reference/grammar.html?highlight=full%20grammar)
>>> doesn't seem to take that into account... So, can someone enlighten me
>>> on what should be the correct treatment for that on a grammar that
>>> wants to support Python 3.0?
>>
>> An issue was already filed about this:
>> http://bugs.python.org/issue4199
>> It should be ready for inclusion in 3.0.1.
>
> No it should not. It should be put in 3.1.
>
> I strongly object against the addition of features of *any* kind to
> 3.0.1, no matter whether they were promised or announced in a PEP or
> in the docs or on the 8 o'clock news.  This would make 3.0.0 forever a
> "loser" release.
>
> (I find the removal of 'cmp' hard to swallow too, but in a sense the
> addition of features is worse, as it makes downgrading a risk.
> Upgrades, no matter how minimal, always represent risks -- however
> downgrading shouldn't represent risks, unless you happen to depend on
> a bugfix that wasn't present in the downgrade -- but we're not talking
> about a bugfix here no matter how you bend the English language.)
>
> --
> --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
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