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Fri Dec 5 04:24:08 CET 2008 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2008-December/083902.html

Does anyone know what Mono does here?  Presumably they have the exact same
problem as all strings in .NET are Unicode, and filenames/env vars/etc...
are always strings.

Maybe if it's gotta be broken at least it can be broken in a manner
that's consistent with others :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: python-dev-bounces+dinov=microsoft.com at python.org [mailto:python-
> dev-bounces+dinov=microsoft.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Adam Olsen
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:32 PM
> To: James Y Knight
> Cc: "Martin v. Löwis"; python-dev List
> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Python-3.0, unicode, and os.environ
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:14 PM, James Y Knight <foom at fuhm.net> wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm in favour of a different, fifth solution:
> >>
> >> 5) represent all environment variables in Unicode strings,
> >>  including the ones that currently fail to decode.
> >>  (then do the same to file names, then drop the byte-oriented
> >>   file operations again)
> >
> > Yay, maybe we can have this whole discussion all over again!
> >
> > Let's bring out all the same arguments, come to no conclusion, and
> let it
> > taper off unresolved, yet again! :)
> >
> > FWIW, I still agree with Martin that that's the most reasonable
> solution.
>
> It died because nobody presented a viable solution, and I maintain no
> solution is possible.  All suggestions involve arbitrary
> transformations that fail to round trip correctly at some point or
> another.  They're simply about shuffling the failure around to
> somewhere the poster happens to like.
>
> Please, if you have a *new* idea that doesn't have a failure mode, by
> all means post it.  But don't resurrect a pointless bikeshed.
>
>
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> Adam Olsen, aka Rhamphoryncus
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