Guido van Rossum wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin at gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM, <glyph at divmod.com> wrote: >> > >> > On 02:21 pm, murman at gmail.com wrote: >> > >>OTOH, I'd rather there be OOWTDI so whatever the consensus is is fine >> > >>with me. >> > > >> > >This strikes me as a gratuitous API change of the kind Guido was >> > >warning about in his recent post: "Don't change your APIs incompatibly >> > >when porting to Py3k" >> > >> > I agree emphatically. Actually I think this is the most extreme case. >> > The unit test stuff should be as stable as humanly possible between 2 >> > and 3, moreso than any other library. >> >> This is convincing for me. Move my +1 back to 3.1. >> > > Same here; let's tread carefully here and not change this with 3.0. > Starting to deprecate in 3.1 and killing in 3.3 would be soon enough. > I like using only the assertKeyword variants, removing assert_, fail*, > and assertEquals. However I don't like changing assertTrue and > assertFalse to insist that the value is exactly True or False -- if > you really care that much, let's add assertIs(x, y) which asserts that > x and y are the same object. I also think that all tests should use > the operator their name implies, e.g. assertEqual(x, y) should do > something like > > if x == y: > pass > else: > raise AssertionError(...) > > rather than > > if x != y: > raise AssertionError(...) > > Someone please open a bug for this task. > > This sounds like a good compromise and I'm happy to take on the cleanup - unless someone else beats me to it. I guess it should wait until 3.0 final is out of the door before adding the DeprecationWarnings. Michael Foord
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