Application programmers... Web programmers... I can't resist chiming in that I'm running a 4000-line Python application on my iPhone that is both a full-blown application, and a Web server, because it uses the phone's browser as its application GUI. (By the way, thanks to whoever pushed through the addition of SQLite to Python 2.5. It's been useful on the phone.) I teach an annual short course on Python at PARC; two hours, one for the basics, the other for tricks. That's about all it takes, for folks who already know how to program. Bill
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