On 2007-05-21 16:05, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > At 01:43 PM 5/21/2007 +0200, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 2007-05-21 00:07, Talin wrote: >>> Phillip J. Eby wrote: >>>> I wanted to get this in before the Py3K PEP deadline, since this is a >>>> Python 2.6 PEP that would presumably impact 3.x as >> well. Feedback welcome. >>>> >>>> PEP: 365 >>>> Title: Adding the pkg_resources module >>> I'm really surprised that there hasn't been more comment on this. >> True.... both ways, I guess: I'm still waiting for a reply to my >> comments. > > What comments are you talking about? I must've missed them. I've attached the email. Please see below. >> I'd also like to see more discussion about adding e.g.: >> >> * support for user packages >> >> (ie. having site.py add a well-defined user home directory >> based Python path entry to sys.path, e.g. >> ~/.python/user-packages, much like what MacPython already does >> now) >> >> * support for having the import mechanism play nice >> with namespace packages >> >> (ie. packages that may live in different places on the disk, >> but appear to be in the same Python package as seen by the >> import mechanism) >> >> I think those two features would go a long way in reducing the >> number of hacks setuptools currently applies to get this >> functionality working with code in .pth files, monkey-patching >> site.py, etc. > > These items aren't directly related to the PEP, > however. Right. I wasn't referring to this PEP. I think we should have two more PEPs covering the above points, since they offer benefits for all users, not just setuptools users. > pkg_resources doesn't monkeypatch anything or touch any > .pth files. It only changes sys.path at runtime if you explicitly > ask it to locate and activate packages for you. > > As for namespace packages, pkg_resources provides a more PEP > 302-compatible alternative to pkgutil.extend_path(). pkgutil doesn't > support anything but existing filesystem directories, but the > pkg_resources version supports zipfiles and has hooks to allow > namespace package support to be registered for any PEP 302 importer. See: > > http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PkgResources#supporting-custom-importers > > (specifically, the register_namespace_handler() function.) Looking at the code it appears as if you've already formalized an implementation for this. However, since this is not egg-specific it should probably be moved to pkgutil and get a separate PEP with detailed documentation (the link you provided doesn't really explain the concepts, reading the code helped a bit). What I don't understand about your approach is why importers would have to register with the namespace implementation. This doesn't seem necessary, since the package __path__ attribute already provides all functionality needed for redirecting lookups to different paths. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, May 21 2007) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ :::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,MacOSX for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal at egenix.com> Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 0365: Adding the pkg_resources module Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 16:06:54 +0200 Size: 10406 Url: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/attachments/20070521/73a3d884/attachment-0001.mht
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