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Fri Jan 6 07:26:36 CET 2006 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2006-January/059456.html

Just one short comment of your ( well written ) rationale and PEP. Ruby 
might be hyped at the moment but at least in the german labour market 
and the biggest german freelancer mediation Ruby is quite inexistent. 
Even when the nerdish blogosphere is setting different priorities SAP 
and Intel made million $ investments in Zend Corp. and PHP but not in 
RoR. The slashdot sociology is not all important.

If its just about rhetorical battles, hype and popularity Pythonistas 
would do a better service for themselves not to change Pythons object 
model but write a J2EE-like spec, standardize it and provide a reference 
implementation ( "THE agile alternative!... ").

Kay

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