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Tue Sep 6 10:57:32 CEST 2005 · https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-September/056215.html

While we're on the subject of Python 3000, what's the
chance that reference counting when calling C
functions from Python will go away?

To me this is one of the few annoyances I have with
Python.  I know that Ruby somehow gets around the need
for ref. counting.

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