On 2005 Jan 10, at 23:19, Phillip J. Eby wrote: ... > As I said, after more thought, I'm actually less concerned about the > performance than I am about even remotely encouraging the combination > of Liskov violation *and* concrete adaptation As per other msg, abstract classes have just the same issues as concrete ones. If Ka-Ping Yee's idea (per Artima cmts on BDFL blog) of having interfaces supply template methods too ever flies, the issue would arise there, too (a BDFL comment with a -1 suggests it won't fly, though). > targets. But, if "after the dust settles" it turns out this is going > to be supported after all, then we can worry about the performance if > need be. > > Note, however, that your statements actually support the idea of *not* > adding a special case for Liskov violators. If newer code uses > interfaces, the Liskov-violation mechanism is useless. If older code > doesn't have __conform__, it cannot possibly *use* the > Liskov-violation mechanism. Adding __conform__ to a class to raise a LiskovViolation when needed is a TINY change compared to the refactoring needed to use template-methods without subclassing. Alex
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