On Thursday 27 November 2003 11:16 am, Kepes Krisztian wrote: ... > try: > i=s.index('a') > except: > i=-1 > if i<>-1: pass > > and not this: > > if (s.find('a')<>-1): pass Why don't you use the clearer, faster, more readable, AND more concise idiom if 'a' in s: pass instead? > Why don't exists same method in the list object ? The 'in' operator works just fine for lists, too. Perhaps if you studied Python's present capabilities a bit better, before requesting changes and additions to Python, you might achieve better results faster. > Same thing is the deleting. > > I think, this method is missing from strings, and lists. Look at the 'del' keyword (and slice assignments) -- for lists only: > print l > l[2]=None > l.remove(None) del l[2] or equivalently l[2:3] = [] > and delete more: > s.delete() # s='' Python strings are immutable and will always remain immutable. There is NO way to change an existing string object and there will never be. > l.delete() # l=[] l[:] = [] or equivalently del l[:] > s.delete(2,2) # s='abef' Ditto. > l.delete(2,2) # l=[1,2,4,5] l[2:4] = [] or equivalently del l[2:4] > So: some functions/methods are neeeded to Python-like programming > (less write, more effectivity). This is quite possible, but I have seen almost none listed in your wishlist. I.e., the only task you've listed that is not performed with easy, popular and widespread Python idioms would seem to be a string method roughly equivalent to the function: def delete(s, from, upto=None): if upto is None: upto = from + 1 return s[:from] + s[upto:] returning "a copy of s except for this slice". However, the addition of more functions and methods that might (perhaps) save typing a few characters, allowing a hypothetical z = s.delete(a, b) in lieu of z = s[:a] + s[b:] must overcome a serious general objection: as your very request shows, people ALREADY fail to notice and learn a lot of what Python offers today. Adding more and more marginally-useful functions and methods might therefore more likely just cause people to fail to notice and learn a larger fraction of Python's capabilities, rather than supply any burningly needed usefulness. Alex
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