On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > Guido van Rossum wrote: > > See my recent checkins and what I just sent to python-announce (not > > sure when the moderator will get to it): > > Back in December I reduced the "Restricted Execution" HOWTO > to a warning not to use rexec. This morning, perhaps because of Guido's > announcement, I've gotten two e-mails from users of the module asking > for more details, both sounding a bit desperate for alternatives. > Doubtless more rexec users will come out of the woodwork as a result. This also deeply affects Pl/Python, the embedded Python interpreter in PostgreSQL. It runs in a "trusted mode" via a restricted execution environment. I'll drop a note to the other developers about this, so we can figure out what to do. The simple solution is to simply make Pl/Python an untrusted language, though I'm sure that won't be popular. As for fixing the problems in the Python core -- I'm willing to tentatively volunteer in the effort. I am certainly not committing to doing it all myself! However, I am happy to coordinate, code, manage design docs and validation suites, and generally keep things going. Anything more than that depends on how much help, support, real code, and testing I get from other volunteers. My first challenge to python-dev. Answer this: It has been said that the previous rexec functionality was ad hoc and brittle, and many better solutions are possible. What better alternatives exist in terms of features offered, overall runtime performance, ease of maintenance, and validation? More complete answers should address many, if not all, of the following subjects: Proxy objects -- making unsafe objects safe(r) Restricted environments -- limiting access to system resources Restricted introspection -- limiting the amount of information obtainable from exposed objects and environment Tainting -- tracking trusted status of objects Security policy management -- Configuration of how security mechanisms are applied Regards, -Kevin Jacobs -- Kevin Jacobs The OPAL Group - Enterprise Systems Architect Voice: (216) 986-0710 x 19 E-mail: jacobs@theopalgroup.com Fax: (216) 986-0714 WWW: http://www.theopalgroup.com
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