aahz> Then that person needs to specify '\r' as EOL (and open the file aahz> as binary). There's no one-size fits all and yes, you normally do aahz> need to quote string fields with embedded newlines with CSV. Then it's better than we never use universal newline (or plain text) mode, and do our own line parsing. Without it, I think the opportunities for confusion are too great. Skip
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