A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 05:24 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote: > >> Why do you want to lose bdist_dumb? > > Bug #410541 is that the .zip archive created by bdist_dumb is useless > because it contains filenames relative to the root directory. Because > Python can > be installed anywhere on Windows, the .zip files are therefore useless > for Windows installation. They might be usable on Unix platforms, as > long as > you're sure about whether Python is in /usr/ or /usr/local, and if tying > it to a > single version is OK (because the path will be > /usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages). You are forgetting the the power of distutils lies in the ability to subclass these commands, e.g. I use the following to create Zope product packages: class mx_bdist_zope(bdist_dumb): """ Build binary Zope product distribution. """ def finalize_options (self): # Default to ZIP as format on all platforms if self.format is None: self.format = 'zip' bdist_dumb.finalize_options(self) # Hack to reuse bdist_dumb for our purposes; .run() calls # reinitialize_command() with 'install' as command. def reinitialize_command(self, command, reinit_subcommands=0): cmdobj = bdist_dumb.reinitialize_command(self, command, reinit_subcommands) if command == 'install': cmdobj.install_lib = 'lib/python' cmdobj.install_data = 'lib/python' return cmdobj > This could be fixed by making it possible to use relative paths, of course, > so you'd have to unpack the resulting .zip in site-packages, but if no > one uses .zip files for this purpose, why bother? bdist_dumb is useful on other platforms as well. The fact that it basically zips up a binary installation tree is very handy when you are targetting non-installer platforms or when you want to deploy to custom Python installations. > If bdist_wininst wasn't around, then bdist_dumb would be the only way to > install on Windows, and clearly this would have to fixed. With > bdist_wininst, > I don't know if anyone cares. On Unix bdist_dumb also doesn't handle > scripts, apparently. > > Andrew MacIntyre's use of .zip files on OS/2 may save bdist_dumb, though. > Andrew, was the use of full paths the problem that kept you from using it? > > The options are: > 1) leave it as-is, broken and useless. (The current state; this seems > pointless.) > 2) fix it I all you want is to have the ability to make the paths relative, I suggest you add an option for this to the command. > 3) rip it out You can't rip out code that's currently in use without providing at least some kind of alternative. I also don't see any gain from such an approach. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH _______________________________________________________________________ eGenix.com -- Makers of the Python mx Extensions: mxDateTime,mxODBC,... Python Consulting: http://www.egenix.com/ Python Software: http://www.egenix.com/files/python/
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