Kevin Jacobs wrote: > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Skip Montanaro wrote: > >>I'm not. You were the one who brought up maybe deprecating it. If it's >>not going to be deprecated I see no reason it should not provide names for >>all the builtin types. > > > Pointless semantic arguments aside, I agree with Skip. I don't care how > many other ways we provide to spell types: until the types module is > depricated, I do not see why it should be intentionally broken by not > covering all builtin types (unless thus breaking the module is a slimy way > of encouraging its deprication, in which case I will object on procedural > grounds). > > The current state of afairs is clearly un-Pythonic -- there IS more than one > way to do many things. However, the types module is by far one of the more > benign places where this is happening. e.g., concurrently having two > distinct class implementations isn't exactly Pythonic either. So everyone > should realize that the 2.2 release have left a great number of things in > flux, especially in the type system. Once the dust settles, we need to take > a hard look at where we are, where we need to go, and how we plan to get > there. These steps MUST include wisdom from both theoretical AND empirical > study of the problems, or else we risk losing the essential characteristics > that made us want to write our programs in Python in the first place. > > Please, lets keep our urges for microscopic language-lawyering in check for > now. Everyone is making very clever arguments, and we're all really > impressed, but this argument has turned into a pointless wank-fest. There > are bigger conceptual fish to fry and real bugs to fix. So leave the silly > BooleanType declaration in types -- it hurts nobody and keeps our house in > good order until we decide if/when we want to tear that part down. +1 -- Marc-Andre Lemburg CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH ______________________________________________________________________ Company & Consulting: http://www.egenix.com/ Python Software: http://www.egenix.com/files/python/
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