>>>>> "TM" == Trent Mick <trentm@ActiveState.com> writes: TM> The argument for the former is: TM> (1) KISS and YAGNI I've said my piece for the most part, but this YAGNI stuff bugs me. YAGNI means: Always implement things when you actually need them, never when you just foresee that you need them. [From http://www.xprogramming.com/Practices/PracNotNeed.html] I actually need this feature. If the standard logger doesn't have it, we'll have to extend Zope with a Zope-specific logger that adds the feature. I'm not asking for a feature because I think it might be useful. Rather, I'd think that Kevin and I are offering some real-world experience. We've written or maintain large, production-quality applications that use logging. In Zope, it has been useful to log tracebacks for exceptions at levels other than error. And it has been necessary to pass an exception explicitly because sys.exc_info() would get stomped by a subsequent exception. Now, KISS is different. It may be that the kinds of things that Kevin and I are trying to do are so unusual that no one else will ever do it. By this argument, supporting a few cases from oddball customers makes your code harder to understand and maintain; perhaps other users will find the interface confusing because of the extra features. Jeremy
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