[/F] > when was this discussed on python-dev? It wasn't -- it actually came up on one of the SourceForge mailing lists ... ah, of course, tried to search but "Geocrawler is down for nightly database maintenance". They sure have long nights <wink/snarl>. I'm guessing it's the python-iterators list. It spun off of a thread where Guido was wondering whether one of the new ways to spell "iterate over a file" should return lines without trailing \n, so that e.g. for line in sys.stdin: print line wasn't a surprise. I opined it would be better to make all ways of iterating a file do the same thing, but change print instead. We both agreed that couldn't happen. But then I couldn't find any code it would break, only code of the form print line, where the "," was trying to suppress the extra newline, and that would continue to work the same way even if print were changed. The notion that legions of people are using print line as an obscure way to get double-spacing is taking me by surprise. Nobody on the iterators list had this objection. win-some-lose-some-lose-some-lose-some-lose-some-ly y'rs - tim
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