[MAL] > I just wanted to hint at a problem which iterating over items > in an unordered set can cause. Especially new Python users will find > it confusing that the order of the items in an iteration can change > from one run to the next. Do they find "for k, v in dict.items()" confusing now? Would be the same. > ... > What we really want is iterators for dictionaries, so why not > implement these instead of tweaking for-loops. Seems an unrelated topic: would "iterators for dictionaries" solve the supposed problem with iteration order? > If you are looking for speedups w/r to for-loops, applying a > different indexing technique in for-loops would go a lot further > and provide better performance not only to dictionary loops, > but also to other sequences. > > I have made some good experience with a special counter object > (sort of like a mutable integer) which is used instead of the > iteration index integer in the current implementation. Please quantify, if possible. My belief (based on past experiments) is that in loops fancier than for i in range(n): pass the loop overhead quickly falls into the noise even now. > Using an iterator object instead of the integer + __getitem__ > call machinery would allow more flexibility for all kinds of > sequences or containers. ... This is yet another abrupt change of topic, yes <0.9 wink>? I agree a new iteration *protocol* could have major attractions.
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