On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 12:29:35AM -0500, Jeremy Hylton wrote: >I hope it's simple disagreement and not arrogance. I do not agree I trust not. :) My primary concern is that the tests are quickly readable, because they're also a form of documentation (hopefully not the only one though). I have enough problems debugging the actual code without having to debug a test suite. Consider the example Chris posted, which features the snippet: def testGetItemFails(self): self.assertRaises(KeyError, self._getitemfail) def _getitemfail(self): return self.t[1] I don't think this form, requiring an additional small helper method, is any clearer than self.test_exc('self.t[1]', KeyError); two extra lines and the loss of locality. Put tests for 3 or 4 different exceptions into testGetItemFails and you'd have several helper functions to trace through. For simple value tests, this is less important; the difference between test_val( 'self.db.get_user("FOO")', None ) and test_val(None, self.db.get_user, "foo") is less. /F's observation that doctest seems suitable for his work is interesting and surprising; I'll spend some more time looking at it. --amk
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