On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, David Ascher wrote: >... > While I agree with Greg's reaction mostly (Gerrit was being childish, which > maybe is not so unappropriate for a 14-year old =), I do think that the > patches mailing list mechanism is only appropriate in the short-term. In > the longer term, a database backend with automatic notification of > interested parties when something 'happens' to a patch is needed. > Distributed INBOX management just doesn't work (witness python-help). Our lack of infrastructure is no excuse for Gerrit's position/attitude. As I mentioned in my response, his email came on the heels of an equally inflammatory email sent to webmaster@list.org (me). I was a bit tweaked :-) Sure: he has a point. Sure: we recognize that we could have better facilities. Yes: I didn't like his attitude (for right or wrong). Note: SourceForge has a "Patch Manager". >... > I just wanted to point out that Gerrit's > complaint, while poorly phrased, is real, and is likely to be felt by others > in the future. Recognized. But as you point out: there is only so much we can do. We'll get there, but I don't believe that it gives people license. > I know I've felt similar frustration sending things to the > Scriptics folks and seeing patches dissapear into a black hole. I've just > learned diplomacy over the years =). I know diplomacy, too (although, I'm not as good as David :-). I gave Gerrit the benefit of the doubt [in the list.org mail] and assumed his use of "lie" was a mis-translation from Dutch to English. I said so in my response. He replied, stating that he *did* intend to use that word. Accept abuse once: things are fine; accept it twice, and you encourage continued, future behavior. We're all nice, great people: none of us want to deal with that. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
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