Tim Peters wrote: > > [Andrew Kuchling] > > Is it OK to refer to 8-bit strings under that name? > > How about "expected an 8-bit string or Unicode string", when the > > object passed to ord() isn't of the right type. > > > > Similarly, when the value is of the right type but has length>1, > > the message is "ord() expected a character, length-%d string found". > > Should that be "length-%d (string / unicode) found)" > > > > And should the type names be changed to '8-bit string'/'Unicode > > string', maybe? > > Actually, upon reflection I think it was a mistake to add all these "or > Unicode" clauses to the error msgs to begin with. Python used to have only > one string type, we're saying that's also a hope for the future, and in the > meantime I know I'd have no trouble understanding "string" as including both > 8-bit strings and Unicode strings. > > So we should say "8-bit string" or "Unicode string" when *only* one of those > is allowable. So > > "ord() expected string ..." > > instead of (even a repaired version of) > > "ord() expected string or Unicode character ..." I think this has to do with understanding that there are two string types in Python 2.0 -- a novice won't notice this until she sees the error message. My understanding is similar to yours, "string" should mean "any string object" and in cases where the difference between 8-bit string and Unicode matters, these should be referred to as "8-bit string" and "Unicode string". Still, I think it is a good idea to make people aware of the possibility of passing Unicode objects to these functions, so perhaps the idea of adding both possibilies to error messages is not such a bad idea for 2.1. The next phases would be converting all messages back to "string" and then convert all strings to Unicode ;-) -- Marc-Andre Lemburg ______________________________________________________________________ Company: http://www.egenix.com/ Consulting: http://www.lemburg.com/ Python Pages: http://www.lemburg.com/python/
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