On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:55:38AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>...
> I am currently rewriting my open source licenses as well and among
> other things I chose to integrate a choice of law clause as well.
> Seeing RMS' view of things, I guess that my license will be regarded
> as incompatible to the GPL which is sad even though I'm in good
> company... e.g. the Apache license, the Zope license, etc. Dual
> licensing is not possible as it would reopen the loop-wholes in the
> GPL I tried to fix in my license. Any idea on how to proceed ?
Only RMS is under the belief that the Apache license is incompatible. It is
either clause 4 or 5 (I forget which) where we state that certain names
(e.g. "Apache") cannot be used in derived products' names and promo
materials. RMS views this as an "additional restriction on redistribution",
which is apparently not allowed by the GPL.
We (the ASF) generally feel he is being a royal pain in the ass with this.
We've sent him a big, long email asking for clarification / resolution, but
haven't heard back (we sent it a month or so ago). Basically, his FUD
creates views such as yours ("the Apache license is incompatible with the
GPL") because people just take his word for it. We plan to put together a
web page to outline our own thoughts and licensing beliefs/philosophy.
We're also planning to rev our license to rephrase/alter the particular
clause, but for logistic purposes (putting the project name in there ties it
to the particular project; we want a generic ASF license that can be applied
to all of the projects without a search/replace).
At this point, the ASF is taking the position of ignoring him and his
controlling attitude(*) and beliefs. There is the outstanding letter to him,
but that doesn't really change our point of view.
Cheers,
-g
(*) for a person espousing freedom, it is rather ironic just how much of a
control freak he is (stemming from a no-compromise position to guarantee
peoples' freedoms, he always wants things done his way)
--
Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
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