[David Ascher] > In case you haven't heard about it, ActiveState has recently signed a > contract with Microsoft to do some work on Perl on win32. I'm astonished at the reaction this has provoked "out there". Here: D:\Python>perl -v This is perl, version 5.001 Unofficial patchlevel 1m. Copyright 1987-1994, Larry Wall Win32 port Copyright (c) 1995 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed by hip communications inc., http://info.hip.com/info/ Perl for Win32 Build 107 Built Apr 16 1996 at 14:47:22 Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source kit. D:\Python> Notice the MS copyright? From 1995?! Perl for Win32 has *always* been funded by MS, even back when half of ActiveState was named "hip communications" <0.5 wink>. Thank Perl's dominance in CGI scripting -- MS couldn't sell NT Server if it didn't run Perl. MS may be vicious, but they're not stupid <wink>. > ... > fork() > ... > Any guesses as to whether we could hijack this work if/when it is released > as Open Source? It's proven impossible so far to reuse anything from the Perl source -- the code is an incestuous nightmare. From time to time the Perl-Porters talk about splitting some of it into reusable libraries, but that never happens; and the less they feel Perl's dominance is assured, the less they even talk about it. So I'm pessimistic (what else is new <wink>?). I'd rather see the work put into threads anyway. The "Mac OS" problem will go away eventually; time to turn the suckers on by default. it's-not-like-millions-of-programmers-will-start-writing-thread-code-then- who-don't-now-ly y'rs - tim
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