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Mon Jul 13 21:20:41 PDT 2020 · https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2020-July/143380.html

I looked more closely at some of the remaining check-llvm failures under
NPM, and quite a few are due to passes that haven't been ported to NPM yet.
The ones I looked at all share the trait of needing some analysis to
provide a TargetMachine, which doesn't exist in NPM yet. So actually some
of your work is required for the optimizer pipeline NPM switch.

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 6:23 PM Chen, Yuanfang <Yuanfang.Chen at sony.com>
wrote:

>
>
>
> -Yuanfang
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arthur Eubanks <aeubanks at google.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 12:49 PM
> > To: Chen, Yuanfang <Yuanfang.Chen at sony.com>
> > Cc: LLVM Developers' List <llvm-dev at lists.llvm.org>
> > Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] [RFC] Introducing classes for the codegen driven
> by
> > new pass manager
> >
> >       While we're still working towards using NPM for optimizer pipeline
> by
> > default, we still don't have a machine pass interface and the
> corresponding
> > machine pass manager using NPM. The potential benefits using NPM aside,
> > this inhibits us from making any progress on deprecating LPM for the
> > codegen pipeline which blocks removing LPM altogether. The purpose of
> this
> > series of patches is to (1) let pass developers write or port machine
> passes to
> > a new machine pass interface and be able to test it with `llc`. (2) let
> a target
> > have the choice of implementing the codegen pipeline using NPM (Work-in-
> > Progress). Maybe it is obvious already, but I also want to mention that
> these
> > patches do not intend to force a target to migrate to NPM right way.
> >
> >
> > Awesome!
> >
> > It would be awesome to delete all the LPM infra at some point in the
> future.
> > But even just deleting all the optimizer pipeline LPM infra would be a
> big win,
> > and that shouldn't be tied to codegen.
> >
>
> True. Opt and codegen pipeline could make independent progress of NPM
> migration.
>
> >
> >       * Goal-1 *
> >       https://reviews.llvm.org/D67687
> >
> >       Four member methods of a machine pass are recognized by the
> > machine pass manager:
> >       (1) `PreservedAnalyses run(MachineFunction &,
> > MachineFunctionAnalysisManager &)`. Majority of the machine passes use
> > this.
> >       (2) `Error doInitialization(Module &,
> > MachineFunctionAnalysisManager &)`. Passes like AsmPrinter needs a hook
> > to lower/transform global constructs. (invoked before all passes `run`
> > method)
> >       (3) `Error doFinalization(Module &,
> > MachineFunctionAnalysisManager &)`. Client: PrintMIRPass.  This is also
> for
> > completeness. (invoked after all passes `run` method)
> >       (4) `Error run(Module &, MachineFunctionAnalysisManager &)`.
> > Client: MachineOutliner, DebugifyMachineModule. I would call this machine
> > module pass which needs a global scope. It is like (1) but subject to
> pass
> > ordering. Currently, a pass either define this or (1), but not both.
> >
> >       (doInitialization/doFinalization is currently not supported by the
> NPM
> > optimizer pipeline because there is no real need for it.
> >       http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2018-
> > September/126504.html)
> >
> >
> > Are doInitialization/doFinalization really necessary? As mentioned in the
> > previous discussion, it seems like usually the things in
> > doInitialization/doFinalization are not logically in the right place.
> > For example, maybe PrintMIRPass should just be a module pass, like
> > PrintModulePass.
>
> Good point! It is very likely that PrintMIRPass could be implemented with
> (4) above.
> For AsmPrinter's uses of ` doInitialization`, I'm not 100% sure.  It looks
> like it could also be replaced by (4).
> But difference is ` doInitialization` is invoked before all passes `run`
> method, whereas (4) is invoked by pass order.
> I don't know if there are any implicit/subtle dependency in this regard.
>
> It would be great to have some codegen folks to shed light on it here.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >       * Goal-2 *
> >       https://reviews.llvm.org/D67687
> >
> >       Unlike IR where `has-a` relationship exists among
> > module/function/loop/cgscc etc., the MIR does not have `has-a`
> relationship
> > with any kind of IR. It does have a one-on-one relationship with IR
> function.
> > So, transforming MIR does not change any IR unit at all. Invalidating a
> MIR
> > analysis result also does not invalidate any IR analysis result.
> >
> >
> >       Based on the above observation, the machine pass manager runs
> > standalone, i.e. combining it with other types of pass managers using
> adaptor
> > passes are not supported. There is also no proxy defined for machine
> > analysis manager with any other types of analysis managers. The machine
> > analysis manager does provide API to register and query IR analysis
> because
> > machine passes need IR analysis result in general.
> >
> >
> > Maybe this is my lack of familiarity with codegen, but why doesn't a
> Module
> > contain all its MachineFunctions? It seems like that adaptor would be
> > necessary.
>
> Because their data structures are separated. Logically they are
> representations of the same/similar thing
> at different abstraction level.
>
> >
> >
> >       ** Testing **
> >       - Since the `llc` options are compatible, as passes are ported to
> NPM
> > and various issues got resolved, we should see more tests passing when
> `llc -
> > enable-new-pm` is turned on implicitly via an (maybe) knob similar to
> `cmake
> > -DENABLE_EXPERIMENTAL_NEW_PASS_MANAGER`.
> >       - A buildbot to make sure no regression when `llc -enable-new-pm`
> is
> > implicitly on?
> >       - Any idea on this regard is much appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Manually running tests once in a while might be good enough, not sure if
> the
> > cost of setting up a bot that maintains some sort of list of tests that
> have
> > passed in the past is worth it. From my limited experience, tests won't
> really
> > tend to regress under NPM as long as you have some tests explicitly
> testing
> > NPM sprinkled around.
>
> Sounds good. I was afraid if it takes too long to migration codegen
> passes, there may be regressions introduced
> into IR-to-obj tests under NPM (they exercise mush more than a single or a
> few consecutive passes). I think it's fine to consider this in the future.
>
>
>
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