Nov 13, 2022, 18:05 by stefankangas@gmail.com: > Well, of course more people have had the chance to use it. This has > helped build a fairly sizable org-mode community. I see, so significantly more people compared to before became familiar with it when it was included in the default release; how do we know this? If the implication here is that many a users don't get the chance to learn about great packages in the wild, even when they are in ELPA, when these packages are not in the default release; then this is a different problem to address, maybe by including some kind of digest on the state of things like Sascha Chua's site at release would help. > > ... > That's not my experience, FWIW. As a very heavy org-mode user with a > decent number of customizations, I've almost always been more than happy > with the stable version of org-mode shipped with Emacs. Again is there any way we can compare what ratio of its users prefer the one in the default release, genuinely asking? I say (if there isn't some nuance I'm not seeing like reaching a much wider audience) it is almost always more preferable to have the chance to M-x package-install the latest (stable or devel) org at will, as this is one of the best features of Emacs, being an interpreter environment itself. > I also can't remember having experienced any issues with installing a > new version of org-mode on top of the built-in one. package.el > certainly has no trouble with it, AFAIK, and if there are any issues > they are merely bugs that should be fixed. True, still it would be better to avoid this wholesale. Org is a different kind of beast however, so I can't say I'm informed enough to decide if it would be better for it not to be in default release of Emacs. Best would be to improve the interaction of built-in vs installed business.
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