Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes: > On 12.11.2022 17:20, João Távora wrote: >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 14:36 Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru >> <mailto:dgutov@yandex.ru>> wrote: >> On 12.11.2022 12:11, João Távora wrote: >> >  Saint Ignucius then also asked the maintainers to stop maintaining >> >  their s.el. Let's presume they did listen. >> Did they? >> Did the whole fairy-tale schtick fly over your head? None of this >> has happened yet: I'm just presenting a plan. If people play along >> is not up to me. > > It would seem useful to do some dev-rel work in advance. Or maybe now? Yes, maybe. But maybe we should first agree on the plan. We're not there yet: Richard has a completely different idea, that I don't think is technically sound. I've tried to explain my original plan again. It would seem you have read it: do you understand it? Do you see anything technically wrong with it? If you don't then maybe you could help convince others that it's a viable plan > Otherwise, we've just acquired some extra complexity in the reader, > xref and elisp completion code, while the anticipated benefits are > very slow to materialize. I'm not sure the complexity is that much (it was a long time ago, but I believe it was reasonably low). But you're right, the benefits of shorthands so far are just programmer convenience for libraries outside of Emacs. I've enjoyed using them, and I would guess a small number of programmers are also taking advantage of them them in some side projects, judging from a quick GitHub code search. > Half a year has passed now since Emacs 28.1's release, and even longer > than that since the "shorthands" have been installed on master, and I > don't see a single mention of them on s.el's issue tracker. > > Ditto for dash.el and f.el. For the record, I think you're completely right. But hey, this is Emacs, it moves slowly. Again, if you understand the plan I put forth and you think it's viable, then speak up and let's get things moving. João
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