On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote: > 94% of the votes voted in favor of integrating O+ into PHP, which is well > above 2/3, it’s almost 3/3. 44 for 5.5 + delay 22 for no delay (aka 5.6) 4 for not at all in the current sate Sorry but don't use numbers badly to cover your goals. > The only open question was about timeline. It is the main question, not the last open (there are many). > And no matter how we twist it, whether it happens now or in a year has > ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with whether or not it’s a language change. In > other words, if I phrased the RFC differently, and only asked who’s in > favor vs. who’s against – it would get a 94% vote in favor, > easily blowing > past both the 51% barrier as well as the 67% barrier. A 2nd RFC, asking > people to vote about the timeline – would have gotten 44 vs 22, which > happens to be 2/3, but clearly, would not have required more than 51% since > it’s a timeline question, not a language change question. It is clearly not as clear as you think. > I’m afraid that’s as far as I’m willing to play this game of bureaucracy. > The voting RFC wasn’t designed to turn PHP into The House, or a courtroom. > There’s absolutely NO WAY we can reach consensus, and there’s no way the > overwhelming majority would agree to paralysis imposed by a tiny minority.. > Let’s put it to rest, we all have better things to do with our time. Yes, but what should be put on rest is not the RFCs process, which work out of the box for 99.99% but the way you habdle it and the total lack of respect for the different opinions raised here or on other lists. That'd to end at some point. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye
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- Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:12:42 +0000
- Alberto VianaWed, 27 Feb 2013 16:24:00 +0000
- Ferenc KovacsWed, 27 Feb 2013 21:01:29 +0000
- Rasmus LerdorfWed, 27 Feb 2013 21:19:44 +0000
- Nikita PopovWed, 27 Feb 2013 21:30:01 +0000
- Ferenc KovacsWed, 27 Feb 2013 21:41:25 +0000
- Pierre JoyeWed, 27 Feb 2013 22:16:31 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 10:21:22 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Frank SchenkThu, 28 Feb 2013 10:47:21 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Lester CaineThu, 28 Feb 2013 10:54:01 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 11:56:53 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Ilia AlshanetskyThu, 28 Feb 2013 13:54:26 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Anthony FerraraThu, 28 Feb 2013 14:01:30 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 14:59:00 +0000
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- Bob WeinandWed, 27 Feb 2013 22:20:30 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 06:53:46 +0000
- Kalle Sommer NielsenThu, 28 Feb 2013 08:05:10 +0000
- LaruenceSun, 03 Mar 2013 05:40:49 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:02:30 +0000
- Pierre JoyeSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:07:24 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:21:19 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:25:44 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Rasmus LerdorfSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:41:12 +0000
- Pierre JoyeSun, 03 Mar 2013 08:43:03 +0000
- Rasmus LerdorfSun, 03 Mar 2013 09:23:45 +0000
- Nikita PopovThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:01:51 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:06:50 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:26:01 +0000
- Rasmus LerdorfThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:31:57 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:39:22 +0000
- Anthony FerraraThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:44:23 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:52:20 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Anthony FerraraThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:01:45 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Rasmus LerdorfThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:17:48 +0000
- David Soria ParraThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:00:29 +0000
- Philip OlsonThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:33:49 +0000
- David Soria ParraThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:52:03 +0000
- Anthony FerraraThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:58:13 +0000
- Arpad RayThu, 07 Mar 2013 22:07:56 +0000
- Philip OlsonThu, 07 Mar 2013 22:13:56 +0000
- Andi GutmansFri, 08 Mar 2013 05:55:26 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:51:23 +0000
- Pierre JoyeFri, 08 Mar 2013 08:22:34 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:18:38 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:25:06 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:46:14 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:55:15 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiSun, 03 Mar 2013 09:32:48 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Nikita PopovThu, 28 Feb 2013 17:33:44 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 17:35:12 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 17:40:12 +0000
- Nikita PopovThu, 28 Feb 2013 18:37:23 +0000
- Anthony FerraraThu, 28 Feb 2013 19:34:37 +0000
- Derick RethansThu, 28 Feb 2013 20:04:29 +0000
- Stas MalyshevThu, 28 Feb 2013 20:06:17 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 20:16:10 +0000
- Rasmus LerdorfThu, 28 Feb 2013 20:27:57 +0000
- Sebastian BergmannFri, 01 Mar 2013 11:10:09 +0000
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