Zeev Suraski wrote:Of course I do, but I would say that saying 5.4 is 'extremely incompatible with 5.3' is also nitpicking. Which is why I doubt 5.5 will see dramatically different adoption rates from 5.4. If anything, having O+ inside 5.5 would help - although personally I think that the reason people aren't upgrading to 5.4 isn't just the fact APC wasn't available. It's simply not a priority for them as earlier versions are already doing everything they need, and if it ain't broke - don't fix it.
Code which originated in pre 5.3 days and has had the faults hidden when running on 5.3 still needs work to run on 5.4. If the faults were fixed in 5.3, then it's more likely to run on 5.4 even with e_strict off. I have yet to get a legacy site that does not need a few hours work to get it running again in 5.4. I've still another 60 odd to work through and some of them still use things removed in 5.4. The hassle with <?= stopping working is a good example of the sort of thing which affects confidence in upgrading! The reality is that one simply can't switch existing code between versions of PHP without first checking it, and checking every site take time. We are having to test on 5.3 because that is what ISP's are moving to, while it would be nice simply to skip that step and go straight to 5.4. Having moved to 5.3 then it still leaves a question - do you switch on the hidden stuff and see if it can be tidied up? It's finding the time to clean up all of the hidden warnings that is the killer :( Finding time to test everything again in 5.5 is simply not going to happen this end, and I'm more than happy with eaccelerator in production. Everything is running stability so why should I be wasting all this time anyway? The paying customers simply expect their sites to work ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk
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- Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:12:42 +0000
- Alberto VianaWed, 27 Feb 2013 16:24:00 +0000
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- Pierre JoyeWed, 27 Feb 2013 22:16:31 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 10:21:22 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Frank SchenkThu, 28 Feb 2013 10:47:21 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Lester CaineThu, 28 Feb 2013 10:54:01 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 11:56:53 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 13:06:07 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 13:11:55 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 15:29:02 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Lester CaineThu, 28 Feb 2013 16:01:56 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Ilia AlshanetskyThu, 28 Feb 2013 13:54:26 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
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- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 06:53:46 +0000
- Kalle Sommer NielsenThu, 28 Feb 2013 08:05:10 +0000
- LaruenceSun, 03 Mar 2013 05:40:49 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:02:30 +0000
- Pierre JoyeSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:07:24 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:21:19 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:25:44 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Rasmus LerdorfSun, 03 Mar 2013 07:41:12 +0000
- Pierre JoyeSun, 03 Mar 2013 08:43:03 +0000
- Rasmus LerdorfSun, 03 Mar 2013 09:23:45 +0000
- Nikita PopovThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:01:51 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:06:50 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:26:01 +0000
- Rasmus LerdorfThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:31:57 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:39:22 +0000
- Anthony FerraraThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:44:23 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:52:20 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Anthony FerraraThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:01:45 +0000Re: [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Rasmus LerdorfThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:17:48 +0000
- David Soria ParraThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:00:29 +0000
- Philip OlsonThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:33:49 +0000
- David Soria ParraThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:52:03 +0000
- Anthony FerraraThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:58:13 +0000
- Arpad RayThu, 07 Mar 2013 22:07:56 +0000
- Philip OlsonThu, 07 Mar 2013 22:13:56 +0000
- Andi GutmansFri, 08 Mar 2013 05:55:26 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 21:51:23 +0000
- Pierre JoyeFri, 08 Mar 2013 08:22:34 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 07 Mar 2013 17:18:38 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:46:14 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 07 Mar 2013 16:55:15 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiSun, 03 Mar 2013 09:32:48 +0000RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
- Nikita PopovThu, 28 Feb 2013 17:33:44 +0000
- Zeev SuraskiThu, 28 Feb 2013 17:35:12 +0000
- Pierre JoyeThu, 28 Feb 2013 17:40:12 +0000
- Nikita PopovThu, 28 Feb 2013 18:37:23 +0000
- Anthony FerraraThu, 28 Feb 2013 19:34:37 +0000
- Derick RethansThu, 28 Feb 2013 20:04:29 +0000
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