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Sun Apr 15 14:15:45 EDT 2001 · http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-April/101344.html

> Then we are back to the initial discussion, that is inheriting
> implementation vs. implementing interfaces. These are two different things.
> If we have to use class inheritance, we will need a abstract class.
> However, this is way to rigid as a approach. You end up with a much more
> confusing class hierarchy design. Sometimes, you end up being "forced" to
> used multiple inheritance, not because the objects are related, but because
> they have to support the same interface.
Implied interfaces with good documentation can be used when cluttering
the class hierarchy is a concern.
Also, there are other mechanisms to achieve interface-like behavior. Not
that I am a fan of PEP 246, but adapters (QueryInterface approach) could
work here.

> To explain it better: sometimes objects need to behave in a similar way, by
> implementing the same interface; however, they are not intrisecally related
> to the point the a common ancestor would be justified. Someone wrote an
> example of family with a Python programmer; I dont remember the details but
> it does illustrate my point.
You are thinking in terms of "explicit" interfaces. :)
The difference between inheritance and interfaces is important when you
are using the "implementation hierarchy" to discover if an object
supports an interface, e.g. if x implements y:
I can argue that even if interfaces PEP is adopted, it will be used for
documentation purposes only, as no one will be using "implemented"
built-in, just like no one checks to see if object has method "doX"
before calling obj.doX ().
Let's take the family example.
There are four participants: Mother, father, and two sons. Each son
inherited properties from both the mother and the father (Please keep in
mind that this is not a paper on Genetics:). 
The first son happen to be a musician, and a philosopher. 
The second son is a programmer, and a philosopher.
Let's see their class definitions using the explicit interfaces:
class Mother:
...
class Father:
...
interface Musician:
	def playViolin ():
		""""""
interface Philosopher:
	def thinkHard ():
		""""""
interface Programmer:
	def hackCode ():
		""""""
class Son1 (Mother, Father) implements Musician, Philosopher:
	def playViolin (self):
		...
	def thinkHard (self):
		...
class Son2 (Mother, Father) implements Programmer, Philosopher:
	def hackCode (self):
		...
	def thinkHard (self):
		...

#Here is some client code
s1 = Son1 ()
s1.playViolin ()
s1.thinkHard ()
s2 = Son2 ()
s2.playViloin ()
s2.hackCode ()

for s in [s1, s2]:
	s.thinkHard ()

Now let's compare that to the implied interface scenario:
class Mother:
...
class Father:
...

class Son1 (Mother, Father) implements Musician, Philosopher:
	def playViolin (self):
		...
	def thinkHard (self):
		...
class Son2 (Mother, Father) implements Programmer, Philosopher:
	def hackCode (self):
		...
	def thinkHard (self):
		...
#Here is some client code
s1 = Son1 ()
s1.playViolin ()
s1.thinkHard ()
s2 = Son2 ()
s2.playViloin ()
s2.hackCode ()

for s in [s1, s2]:
	s.thinkHard ()

As you can see, the only difference between the two examples is
interface declarations in the explicit interface example. And as far as
I am concerned, XML is a better way to document something like that.

-- 
Alex Shindich
mailto:alex at shindich.com
Visit http://www.shindich.com/
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A few words about Python interfaces