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Sun Apr 1 21:22:15 EDT 2001 · http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2001-April/069404.html

Either he's a troll, or deadmeat hasn't learned yet that much of what he
learned in high school was "lies-to-children".

Deadmeat: most of what you learned about programming from the age of 7 is
quite simply bad habits which need to be broken. Almost all the programmers
I know can quite happily swap from one language to another with minimal time
to aclimatise to the idiosyncracies of each language. I myself have known
over 20 programming/scripting languages which were *not* one-off uses only,
quite a few of which I've forgotten now. And I'm only 27. I fully expect to
have a working knowledge of at least an additional 5 over the next couple of
years. Some will get used for one task, and then quickly discarded. Others,
such as Python, will quickly become an integral part of my toolset.

Tim Delaney
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> > > Reset your brain.
> > 
> > Anyone who thinks a programmer can do this is quite insane. 
> I've been
> > programming since I was 7 or 8, and did advanced 
> mathematics throughout
> > highschool. Forgetting such basic principles is not 
> possible, esp. not
> > with the given documentation which gives nothing to fill 
> that void until
> > later.
> 
> A lot of people who were a bit more open-minded than you, did 
> succeed in 
> "resetting their brain" and accepting and understanding the 
> Python object 
> model. Many people here have been trying to explain it you, 
> and pointed out 
> that there really is no inconsistency here. It is now clear 
> that they have 
> been wasting their time. You obviously don't want to learn; 
> you want to 
> keep on seeing Python through your Pascal-goggles and then 
> complain that 
> things don't work the way you expect. If that is the case, 
> then do it in 
> private and stop bothering people who do understand the language.

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