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<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>WiadomoÅÄ napisana przez Antoine Pitrou w dniu 2010-12-07, o godz. 22:19:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite">If you're writing an application then the "No handlers could be found" message is actually useful because there's hardly any reason no to include one.<br></blockquote><br>Why do you say that? Not having to add a handler is certainly useful<br>when you are doing some quick prototyping or simply writing a script<br>(situations in which you still want to get error messages displayed<br>properly by the libraries).<br><br><blockquote type="cite">One way or the other, we should really default to the convenience of application developers. This is currently the case.<br></blockquote><br>Why wouldn't there be a default convenience of printing out errors?<br>It's already the case for the root handler, so why would other handler<br>be treated differently?<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">import logging<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">logging.debug("foo")<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">logging.error("bar")<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>ERROR:root:bar<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>If you're arguing that instead of writing "No handler", our logging library could just as easily default to a simplistic stderr handler for errors, then I agree. Both the convenience and consistency arguments you provided are convincing. See, that was 3 times a con* in one sentence!</div><div><br></div><div>Then again, warning an application developer that some handler is not configured that probably should be, is still valuable IMHO. Unless explicitly silenced.</div></div><div><br></div></div><div>
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