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<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/5/06, <b class="gmail_sendername"><a href="mailto:skip@pobox.com">skip@pobox.com</a></b> &lt;<a href="mailto:skip@pobox.com">skip@pobox.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;Martin&quot; == Martin v Löwis &lt;<a href="mailto:martin@v.loewis.de">martin@v.loewis.de</a>&gt; writes:<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Martin&gt; <a href="mailto:skip@pobox.com">skip@pobox.com</a> schrieb:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; All in all, I think providing binary compatibility would be feasible,
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; and should be attempted. What do you think?<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Neal&gt; Let's assume that 2.4 is the first LSB version.&nbsp;&nbsp;The ABI is<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Neal&gt; different for 2.4 and 2.5.&nbsp;&nbsp;We can't change the ABI for 
2.5 since<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Neal&gt; it's already released and our policy is to keep it constant.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt; It seems that adhering to LSB's constraints is going to create a new set of<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt; problems for Python development.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's unclear to me what LSB brings to
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&gt;&gt; Python other than a bunch of new headaches.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Martin&gt; I won't try to defend it, but would suggest that an evaluation<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Martin&gt; is deferred until it is clear what the actual problems are, and
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Martin&gt; then to judge whether they are additional problems (or perhaps<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Martin&gt; just a tightening of procedures which we had been following all<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Martin&gt; along).<br><br>Taking one example from this thread, Python's bytecode has always been an
<br>internal implementation detail.&nbsp;&nbsp;If I read the thread correctly there is at<br>least a request (if not a requirement) to make it part of an external ABI if<br>Python is to become part of the ABI.&nbsp;&nbsp;That may or may not be a large
<br>technical challenge, but I think it would be a significant philosophical<br>change.</blockquote><div><br>I don't think we are being asked to standardize the bytecode, but that we will accept .pyc files as generated by 
2.4 in future interpreters as legitimate.&nbsp; That seems to implicitly require us to standardize the bytecode *and* they .pyc file format.<br></div><br>-Brett<br></div><br>

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